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The "Male Gaze" as Female Shadow

Posted on Sep 12th, 2007 by Vanessa : Dharma Dancer Vanessa

I had an interesting conversation with two of my female friends the other day that triggered some new thinking and writing for me in regards to the problem of the "male gaze" in feminism.

I was specifically thinking about how feminism's attempt to extricate women from the "male gaze" has inadvertantly ended up cutting women off from some really fundamental aspects of their own experience. That is, in feminism's decision to reject the "male gaze" as an imposition and oppression of men onto women, they also renounced all responsibility for the many ways that women have co-created the "male gaze" throughout history.

There is a reason that women experience the "male gaze" so strongly; it is because it is a part of our own basic experience, part of something we have played a role in creating. When we repress that responsibility we end up projecting the "male gaze" onto men. That is, we experience the "male gaze" as something men are doing to us.

A repression of any aspect of a woman's experience inherently means she cannot recognize it as her own and thus transcend her unconscious embeddedness within it. The "male gaze" remains part of the female shadow, experienced as everywhere "out there" and no where "in here". This disowning of experience has severe consequences for the healthy development of the female psyche, something I would like to explore in depth in my book.

I have a feeling I am going to piss off a lot of feminists, I hope not... but so much postmodern feminism rests on women's vicitmization to the "male gaze" of objectification, when in fact the "male gaze" should be redefined as a male-female co-creation at the earlier levels of our historical development.

By owning it, women take back responisibility and also their power to dis-embed from previous passivity when it came to their own objectification. If we chose to blame instead of owning our part, women's power and freedom will always remain in someone elses hands (namely, men) rather than in our own. The "male gaze" is ours to reclaim, to be integrated back into the female self so as to be included in our experience and also transcended so we can develop into new horizons in how we veiw ourselves and our bodies beyond the "male gaze".
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martha : wildlygentle
6 days later
martha said

Probably one of the deepest subjects I can think of.  Good luck dealing with it in only one book.  Seems to me pretty much about consciousness itself.  If a man looks at a woman as an object with which he will satisfy his physical desire, don't the desire and the object he creates become one?  (The whole thing made up in his consciousness.)  Then he would take action through charm or force to dominate and act out the desire.  And the personhood, the humanity of the object of his desire is not in the equation.  But–what if he truly loves the woman?

Vanessa : Dharma Dancer
6 days later
Vanessa said

Hi Martha, I agree this is a huge subject and there are definitley many complex factors that would have to be taken into account to get at what the “male gaze” really is. I've offered it somewhat simplistically here, just to begin to give a new feel for how we can think about this that also challenges us, as women, to own our own part in co-creating the “male gaze”.
 
It is true, as you've noted, that men can look at women as a mere objects of their desire to be “had” so to speak; what I would call the narcissistically oriented male self at earlier stages of development. But just as potently, women can embody themselves as the narcissitic object of beauty and male desire, to which affords them their own narcissistic benefits.

There is no doubt that the masculine gaze has set the stage for how women are seen within dominant culture, but it is also true that women at the early narcissistically oriented stages of development had good reason to play into the masculine gaze and solidify it culturally through the ways they chose to internalize and embody the “male gaze”, thus becoming an inherent part of creating it.

The problem with certain feminist assessments of the “male gaze”, is that it tends to paint women as mere victims of the evil patriarchy instead of acknowledging that at those earlier stages of development, women had a lot to gain by playing into the objectifying roles that they did, and still do.
 
Women have always carried an immense amount of power when it comes to how they embody their beauty and sexuality. My belief is that this isn't inherently wrong or bad (as some feminists would like to argue), I think women can choose to embody their beauty from the most narcissistic levels to the most divinely selfless and radiant levels, it is our choice, our development. And if we as women begin to break through into new ways of expressing our embodiment and beauty, I believe men's development will also flourish into deeper and higher ways of viewing the female body. But as long as we deny that beauty is ours to claim, and instead attribute it to the construction of patriarchy (see Naomi Wolf's “The Beauty Myth”) we actually stay stuck at square one: never allowed to embody higher levels of our own radiance, and thus developmentally stunted as a culture at the most superficial and narcissistic levels when it comes to female beauty and the male “gaze” (i.e., our post-feminist world today consists of plastic surgery rising at an astronomical rate and Britney Spears as the icon of femininity for my generation).   

andrew : ~SmAsHInG dUaLiTy~
3 months later
andrew said

Brilliant:)

Rich : Human
6 months later
Rich said

Yes, well said V!  : )

I was reading a funny article on a postmodern look at deconstructing a “female essence” and found it very  …hmm …what's the word, well, sort of unconscious of itself, or, in this case, herself.  The writer was saying that there is no female essence, females should reject cultural conditioning and build their own image (which I'm for) and then went on to say that this was an excelent opportunity to see how co-create each other, how we are intimately connected, touching, mutually redefining in relationship and so forth (all of which are very, you guessed it, FEMININE!) The writer was representing an personality that had considerably moved beyond the convention of “the good woman” yet was still feeling very strongly at the gut level how damn much she LOVES to connect. I'm not saying this with scorn, I'm saying this with the hope that more men and women can feel beyond ONLY deconstructing gender and make more peace with their heart.

So while a postmodern climate frees women from normative shoulds of thinking, feeling and behaviour it also, as you so clearly note, shuts women out of their Womanhood.

Catching onto the mention of Power … I think it's important to note a spectrum of power/disempowerment for both men and women along a spectrum of development. NOT as some MERELY abstract exercise but as a way into one's own sexual and gender identity.  MEN who NEED to gaze and objectify women are ALSO disempowered from THEIR own deeper being and women actually PROFIT from men's lack of power and sense of dependcy (think porn stars, models, attractive female salemen, waitresses who get more tips for letting that smile linger just  …a  …little longer etc.)

More examples could be given further up the spectrum but I thought I'd just through my 2 pence into the mix on that one in particular is such a vast issue in culture.

martha : wildlygentle
6 months later
martha said

Rich brings up some good points, and I would add a question:  How can we “reject cultural conditioning and build [our] own image” (which I'm for too, in theory), but how far can such an enterprise go?  We use language, which Sapir and Whorf remind us is a kind of “thought form controller,” and so we will be creating new words, which the feminist movement has certainly done–but how individual and specific to the person is this image we are building?  If I build a personal meaning system and empower myself without reference to my culture, I will fit the definition of insanity.  If I follow the norms, well then why bother?  No matter what approach I take to building this image of mine, I will in some way be dealing with power–the power of others–other groups, other people.  So I might as well be a powerful object of desire?  Or shall I choose to dominate otheres?  (sorry, I'm just brainstorming here!)  Maybe it's ultimately a moral issue.  I CHOOSE not to be primarily an object of desire because…  I want to gain all my goodies in direct ways vs. indirect ways, because direct is better…?

Rich : Human
6 months later
Rich said

Hey Martha  :  )

Great inquiry there. I'm not sure how much I can contribute to you personally and you probably don't need my help anyway … so it works out well for us both!  : ) 

I would say I don't think we can ever remove ourselves from culture . .  .however this does not mean that there is no freedom from culture; for both men and women.  We can see for men (c'mon, I am a man afterall) that there is a culture of masculinity that says if you want something you fucking get it and if someone is in the way then you fucking MOVE them or get beaten back. Then there's another community of masculinity that says you basically need to be a nice boy, be very reasonable, sensitive and so forth, that's one step up from the caveman but it also is horrible to have that as the only option of Manhood. 

THe question that I have as a man, which somewhat mirrors your question and I'm sure Vanessa's, is 'how can I really feel into my guts and balls, as well as my heart and as well as my direction and clarity in a way that doesn't only conform to what I'm told but feels congruent for me in a deep way (might be scary etc.) AND is also checkable with a community of trusted men and is in touch with feminity/ The Feminine. I'm doing that to some degree now, it's demanding but very worthwhile.

Vanessa : Dharma Dancer
6 months later
Vanessa said

Thanks for your thoughts on this Rich and Martha, very rich dialogue indeed.

I like your idea Rich of noting a spectrum of power/disempowerment for both men and women in this area. I definitely resonate with the fact that men who need to gaze and objectifiy women are disemowered from their own deeper development, just as women who feel the need to use their own objectification are also alienated from their own deepest self and radiance.
The biggest issue I see is that these patterns are so deeply ingrained in us for all four-quadrant reasons, and it takes a lot of awareness, practice and commitment to see the many ways in which these dynamics run through our culture, biology, and psyches. I feel like my work is really trying to convince women (and men) that it is worth the agonizing work :-) That there is something truly more magnificent awaiting us if we let go of our often uncounscious addiction to holding what we believe gives us power in this world (for women, that is primarily beauty/sexuality, but of course not exclusively).

Martha, I agree that we can never fully “reject” cutural conditioning around beauty, partly because that cultural conditioning is at least in small part build on biological “truths.”
What I mean by that is that cultural notions, although massively inflated and commodified, are still based on some very real biological realities about what our species finds attractive for reproductive purposes. This is what post-modern feminism often fails to look at, although I give post-modern feminsm due props for their understanding of the social-cultural component of beauty's unfolding.  But what is interesting is that our relationship to both biology and culture can and do shift as we develop.

I don't feel that this new image of beauty for women is about creating a completely individual and independent image that can somehow exist outside of the realities of the socio-cultural world. My belief is more that as women begin to emerge into these very real higher and deeper levels of their own consciousness that they will inherently begin to change the very nature of the collective fabric that makes up our culture.
It takes brave individuals to begin to break through these new levels of awareness and embodiment so as to start to articulate and create a new platform for cultural awareness.

 So you are right, at this point, our culture doesn't offer us a space in which to make meaning of this new level of development, so we can definitely feel “insane” at times as we attempt to speak about it.  But I do believe that as more women step into these higher waves of consciousness we will inherently begin to create words and signifiers/signifieds of a new  collective cultural meaning making system. It is sitting on that creative evolutionary edge that begins to make this kind of radical change possible, even when it looks truly bleak out there from a certain vantage point.  

Bryan : Maybe Meme
about 1 year later
Bryan said

I recall experiencing a lot of denial and or cognitive dissonance on this subject personally.
It feels good to know other people in Vancouver can think integratively.

Thank Buddah, Praise Jesus, Holy fuck….

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